{"id":887,"date":"2014-03-10T23:02:41","date_gmt":"2014-03-10T22:02:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.proof.de\/?p=887"},"modified":"2020-05-08T12:16:19","modified_gmt":"2020-05-08T10:16:19","slug":"pdf-x4-data-hvem-beregner-design-eller-rip","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/da\/pdf-x4-daten-wer-rechnet-indesign-oder-das-rip\/","title":{"rendered":"PDF X\/4-data - hvem beregner? InDesign eller RIP'en?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kk-star-ratings kksr-auto kksr-align-right kksr-valign-top\" data-payload='{\"align\":\"right\",\"id\":\"887\",\"slug\":\"default\",\"valign\":\"top\",\"ignore\":\"\",\"reference\":\"auto\",\"class\":\"\",\"count\":\"0\",\"legendonly\":\"\",\"readonly\":\"\",\"score\":\"0\",\"starsonly\":\"\",\"best\":\"5\",\"gap\":\"5\",\"greet\":\"Jetzt bewerten\",\"legend\":\"0\\\/5 - (0 votes)\",\"size\":\"24\",\"title\":\"PDF X\\\/4 Daten &ndash;&nbsp;wer rechnet? 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Den st\u00e5r for den mest almindelige trykproces: Offsettryk p\u00e5 mat eller blankt billedtrykpapir.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">ISOCoatedV2<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/da\/lexikon\/proofen\/\" target=\"_self\" title='&quot;proofing&quot;: at foretage eller lade foretage et proof. &quot;Jeg skal stadig have brochuren korrekturl\u00e6st&quot; er den typiske formulering for ordet &quot;korrekturl\u00e6sning&quot;. Proofing betyder alts\u00e5 at f\u00e5 fremstillet et farvekorrekturtryk, der er juridisk bindende, i overensstemmelse med den g\u00e6ldende ISO 12647-7-standard.' class=\"encyclopedia\">proofen<\/a> b\u00f8r. Formatet var PDFX-4, vi kunne \u00e5bne filen, preflight den og ogs\u00e5 konvertere den til Acr<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/da\/lexikon\/oba\/\" target=\"_self\" title='OBA er en forkortelse for &quot;Optical Brightning Agents&quot; eller &quot;Optical Brightners&quot;.' class=\"encyclopedia\">oba<\/a>t kan vises. P\u00e5 <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/da\/lexikon\/proof\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Et proof (korrekt: kontraktproof) er en ISO 12647-7-certificeret proofinganordning til den grafiske industri. Et korrekturtryk simulerer farven ved offset- eller dybtryk p\u00e5 en farve- og juridisk bindende m\u00e5de inden for de sn\u00e6vre tolerancer i ISO-standarden.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Bevis<\/a> p\u00e5 <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/da\/lexikon\/fiery\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Fiery er en produktserie fra virksomheden EFI - Electronics for Imaging. Mens navnet Fiery tidligere kun var kendt fra controllere til printere, s\u00e6lges der i dag ogs\u00e5 proof- og produktionssystemer under navnet Fiery.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Ildsj\u00e6lende<\/a> XF 5.2, men filen blev f\u00f8rst oprettet efter en <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/da\/lexikon\/rip\/\" target=\"_self\" title='En RIP er en rasterbilledprocessor. Den behandler PDF- eller Postscript-data og sender dem til tilsluttede billeds\u00e6ttere eller korrekturprintere.' class=\"encyclopedia\">RIP<\/a>-tid p\u00e5 over 3 timer.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blog1.proofen.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/Screen-Recorded2014-03-01-23_44_59.mov\">Adobe PDF X4 sk\u00e6rmudskrivning i Acrobat Professional<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Vi har optaget sk\u00e6rmlayoutet p\u00e5 en moderne Macbook Pro med fire processorkerner og den nyeste Acrobat Pro-version for at vise dig de enorme krav til hardwaren og dermed til regneevnen.<\/p>\n<p>Det var klart, at RIP-tiden ville blive ret lang i betragtning af sk\u00e6rmops\u00e6tningen, men tre timer med kun \u00e9n <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/da\/lexikon\/nutzen\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Antallet af paneler angiver, hvor mange sider der kan placeres (og dermed udskrives) p\u00e5 et udskriftsark.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Fordel<\/a> var relativt us\u00e6dvanligt, is\u00e6r fordi der i vores unders\u00f8gelsesperiode var to tilf\u00e6lde af <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/da\/lexikon\/adobe-pdf-print-engine\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Adobe PDF Print Engine - APPE - er en udskrivnings- og renderingsplatform fra Adobe, der er specialiseret i behandling af PDF-filer og erstatter det udbredte Postscript Level III-udskrivningssprog og CPSI (Configurable PostScript Interpreter). Adobe PDF Print Engine producerer de endelige udskriftsdata til trykplader eller korrekturl\u00e6sningssystemer fra PDF-filer.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Adobe PDF-udskrivningsmotor<\/a> arbejde samtidig. Det er endnu ikke klart, hvor fejlen ligger i den ekstremt h\u00f8je RIP-tid. B\u00e5de <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/da\/lexikon\/efi\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Electronics For Imaging Inc. er en amerikansk virksomhed og producent af et af verdens f\u00f8rende proofing-systemer: EFI Colorproof XF, siden 2013: Fiery XF. EFI er en leverand\u00f8r af l\u00f8sninger til store tryksystemer, RIP&#039;er og farveh\u00e5ndteringsl\u00f8sninger som f.eks. proofing.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">EFI<\/a> som producenten af Fiery RIPS og Adobe som producenten af PDF Print Engine (APPE) har modtaget dataene, blev filen sandsynligvis rippet inden for f\u00e5 minutter p\u00e5 en Harlequin RIP. En fejl i Adobe PDF Print Engine ville derfor ogs\u00e5 v\u00e6re en \u00e5rsag til den lange behandlingstid.<\/p>\n<p>Problemet er typisk. Fra oprettelsesprogrammerne som InDesign og Illustrator sendes filelementernes fladning med X\/4 videre til RIP'en i trykkeriet eller hos producenten af korrekturtryk.<\/p>\n<p>Denne sag blev beregnet p\u00e5 et quad-core-system med SSD'er med to instanser af Adobe PDF Print Engine og outputede korrekt i tre timer og 47 minutter. Da det endelige produkts omslag imidlertid sandsynligvis ikke vil blive produceret i Europa, men i Asien, blev det af hensyn til de lokale trykteknologier besluttet at beregne den komplekse grafik med transparenter, drop shadows osv. i Photoshop og derefter udskrive dem som gennemsigtige PDF-filer. <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/da\/lexikon\/psd\/\" target=\"_self\" title='PSD st\u00e5r for Fogra &quot;ProcessStandard Digital&quot;, ligesom PSO st\u00e5r for &quot;ProcessStandard Offset&quot;.' class=\"encyclopedia\">PSD<\/a> fil igen. Den resulterende PDF X\/3-fil blev rippet og korrekturl\u00e6st p\u00e5 f\u00e5 sekunder. Farveresultatet var identisk med X4-filen.<\/p>\n<p>Eksemplet viser: PDF X4 er ikke kun et \u00e6ndret dataformat. Det flytter ogs\u00e5 datakraften og softwaren til<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/da\/lexikon\/ean\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"EAN = europ\u00e6isk artikelnummer. EAN blev erstattet af GTIN = Global Trade Identification Number i 2009.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">ean<\/a>eftersp\u00f8rgsel fra dataophavsmanden til databehandleren eller printeren. Is\u00e6r ved kompleks grafik kan dette dog f\u00f8re til uforudsigelige effekter. Selv om der i mellemtiden findes PDF X\/4-kompatible l\u00f8sninger som Fiery XF 5.2, er en RIP-tid p\u00e5 over tre timer naturligvis ikke praktisk muligt.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Vi modtog for nylig en PDF-fil fra en schweizisk kunde, som vi blev bedt om at proof'e i henhold til ISOCoatedV2. Formatet var oprettet som PDFX-4, vi kunne \u00e5bne filen, preflight den og ogs\u00e5 vise den i Acrobat. Men ved proofing i Fiery XF 5.2 blev filen f\u00f8rst udl\u00e6st efter en RIP-tid p\u00e5 over 3 timer. Adobe PDF X4-sk\u00e6rmoutput i Acrobat Professional Vi optog sk\u00e6rmlayoutet p\u00e5 en moderne Macbook Pro med fire processorkerner og den nyeste Acrobat Pro-version for at vise dig de enorme krav til hardwaren og dermed ... <\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more-container\"><a title=\"PDF X\/4-data - hvem beregner? InDesign eller RIP&#039;en?\" class=\"read-more button\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/da\/pdf-x4-daten-wer-rechnet-indesign-oder-das-rip\/#more-887\" aria-label=\"L\u00e6s mere om PDF X\/4-data - hvem laver regnestykket? 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