{"id":887,"date":"2014-03-10T23:02:41","date_gmt":"2014-03-10T22:02:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.proof.de\/?p=887"},"modified":"2020-05-08T12:16:19","modified_gmt":"2020-05-08T10:16:19","slug":"pdf-x4-donnees-qui-calcule-conception-ou-rip","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/fr\/pdf-x4-daten-wer-rechnet-indesign-oder-das-rip\/","title":{"rendered":"Donn\u00e9es PDF X\/4 - qui calcule ? InDesign ou le RIP ?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kk-star-ratings kksr-auto kksr-align-right kksr-valign-top\" data-payload='{\"align\":\"right\",\"id\":\"887\",\"slug\":\"default\",\"valign\":\"top\",\"ignore\":\"\",\"reference\":\"auto\",\"class\":\"\",\"count\":\"0\",\"legendonly\":\"\",\"readonly\":\"\",\"score\":\"0\",\"starsonly\":\"\",\"best\":\"5\",\"gap\":\"5\",\"greet\":\"Jetzt bewerten\",\"legend\":\"0\\\/5 - (0 vote)\",\"size\":\"24\",\"title\":\"PDF X\\\/4 Daten &ndash;&nbsp;wer rechnet? 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Il repr\u00e9sente le proc\u00e9d\u00e9 d&#039;impression le plus courant : Impression offset sur papier couch\u00e9 mat ou brillant.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">ISOCoatedV2<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/fr\/lexikon\/proofen\/\" target=\"_self\" title='&quot;Eprouver&quot; signifie produire ou faire produire une \u00e9preuve. &quot;Il faut que je fasse encore \u00e9preuver la brochure&quot; est la formulation typique du mot &quot;proof&quot;. Proofing signifie donc faire r\u00e9aliser une \u00e9preuve en couleurs et juridiquement valable selon la norme ISO 12647-7 en vigueur.' class=\"encyclopedia\">proofen<\/a> de l'entreprise. Le format \u00e9tait PDFX-4, nous avons pu ouvrir le fichier, le pr\u00e9-flouter et le convertir en Acr<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/fr\/lexikon\/oba\/\" target=\"_self\" title='OBA est l&#039;abr\u00e9viation de &quot;Optical Brightning Agents&quot; ou &quot;Optical Brightners&quot;, c&#039;est-\u00e0-dire agents de blanchiment optique.' class=\"encyclopedia\">oba<\/a>t pour l'afficher. Sur le site <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/fr\/lexikon\/proof\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Une \u00e9preuve (correctement appel\u00e9e \u00e9preuve contractuelle ou en anglais Contract Proof) est un moyen de contr\u00f4le certifi\u00e9 selon la norme ISO 12647-7 pour l&#039;industrie graphique. Une \u00e9preuve simule la colorim\u00e9trie de l&#039;impression offset ou de l&#039;h\u00e9liogravure en respectant les couleurs et les tol\u00e9rances \u00e9troites de la norme ISO.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Proof<\/a> dans <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/fr\/lexikon\/fiery\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Fiery est une gamme de produits de la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 EFI - Electronics for Imaging. Alors que l&#039;on ne connaissait autrefois le nom de Fiery que pour les contr\u00f4leurs d&#039;imprimantes, le nom Fiery est aujourd&#039;hui \u00e9galement commercialis\u00e9 pour les syst\u00e8mes d&#039;\u00e9preuves et de production.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Fiery<\/a> XF 5.2, le fichier n'a toutefois \u00e9t\u00e9 cr\u00e9\u00e9 qu'apr\u00e8s une <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/fr\/lexikon\/rip\/\" target=\"_self\" title='Un RIP est un processeur d&#039;images tram\u00e9es, c&#039;est-\u00e0-dire un &quot;processeur d&#039;images tram\u00e9es&quot;. Il traite les donn\u00e9es PDF ou Postscript et les envoie aux flasheuses ou aux imprimantes d&#039;\u00e9preuves connect\u00e9es.' class=\"encyclopedia\">RIP<\/a>-Le temps de r\u00e9ponse est de plus de 3 heures.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blog1.proofen.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/Screen-Recorded2014-03-01-23_44_59.mov\">Adobe PDF X4 \u00c9cran Sortie dans Acrobat Professional<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Nous avons enregistr\u00e9 la structure de l'\u00e9cran sur un Macbook Pro moderne avec quatre c\u0153urs de processeur et la derni\u00e8re version d'Acrobat Pro, afin de vous faire comprendre les \u00e9normes exigences en mati\u00e8re de mat\u00e9riel et donc de puissance de traitement.<\/p>\n<p>Il \u00e9tait \u00e9vident que le temps de RIP serait assez long, \u00e9tant donn\u00e9 la configuration de l'\u00e9cran, mais trois heures pour un seul fichier. <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/fr\/lexikon\/nutzen\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Le nombre de poses indique le nombre de pages pouvant \u00eatre plac\u00e9es (et donc imprim\u00e9es) sur une feuille d&#039;impression.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Avantages<\/a> \u00e9tait tout de m\u00eame relativement inhabituel, d'autant plus que dans notre RIP, deux instances de <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/fr\/lexikon\/adobe-pdf-print-engine\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Adobe PDF Print Engine - APPE - est une plate-forme d&#039;impression et de rendu d&#039;Adobe sp\u00e9cialis\u00e9e dans le traitement des fichiers PDF, qui remplace le langage d&#039;impression Postscript de niveau III ou CPSI (Configurable PostScript Interpreter) largement utilis\u00e9. Le moteur d&#039;impression PDF d&#039;Adobe produit, \u00e0 partir de fichiers PDF, les donn\u00e9es d&#039;impression finales pour les flasheuses \u00e0 plaques ou les syst\u00e8mes d&#039;\u00e9preuves.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Moteur d'impression Adobe PDF<\/a> travailler en m\u00eame temps. Jusqu'\u00e0 pr\u00e9sent, il n'est pas possible de comprendre o\u00f9 se situe exactement l'erreur dans le temps de RIP extr\u00eamement \u00e9lev\u00e9. Tant <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/fr\/lexikon\/efi\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Electronics For Imaging Inc., en abr\u00e9g\u00e9 EFI, est une soci\u00e9t\u00e9 am\u00e9ricaine et le fabricant de l&#039;un des principaux syst\u00e8mes d&#039;\u00e9preuvage au monde : EFI Colorproof XF, devenu Fiery XF en 2013. EFI est un fournisseur de solutions pour les syst\u00e8mes d&#039;impression grand format, les RIP et les solutions de gestion de la couleur telles que l&#039;\u00e9preuvage.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">EFI<\/a> en tant que fabricant du RIPS Fiery et Adobe en tant que fabricant du moteur d'impression PDF (APPE) ont re\u00e7u les donn\u00e9es selon lesquelles le fichier aurait \u00e9t\u00e9 ripp\u00e9 en quelques minutes sur un RIP Harlequin. Une erreur dans le moteur d'impression PDF d'Adobe serait donc \u00e9galement \u00e0 l'origine de ce long d\u00e9lai de traitement.<\/p>\n<p>Le probl\u00e8me est typique. Depuis les programmes de cr\u00e9ation tels qu'InDesign et Illustrator, le calcul \u00e0 plat des \u00e9l\u00e9ments de fichier avec X\/4 est transmis au RIP dans l'imprimerie ou chez l'imprimeur d'\u00e9preuves.<\/p>\n<p>Le cas pr\u00e9sent a \u00e9t\u00e9 calcul\u00e9 sur un syst\u00e8me quadric\u0153ur avec SSD, avec deux instances d'Adobe PDF Print Engine, et a \u00e9t\u00e9 imprim\u00e9 correctement pendant 3 heures et 47 minutes. Cependant, comme la couverture finale du produit ne sera probablement pas produite en Europe mais en Asie, il a \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9cid\u00e9, pour tenir compte des technologies d'impression locales, de r\u00e9duire le graphique complexe avec des transparences, des ombres port\u00e9es, etc. dans Photoshop, puis de l'imprimer en tant qu'image transparente. <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/fr\/lexikon\/psd\/\" target=\"_self\" title='PSD est l&#039;abr\u00e9viation de Fogra &quot;ProcessStandard Digital Printing&quot;, tout comme PSO est l&#039;abr\u00e9viation de &quot;ProcessStandard Offset Printing&quot;.' class=\"encyclopedia\">PSD<\/a> fichier de nouveau. Le fichier PDF X\/3 qui en r\u00e9sulte est ripp\u00e9 et \u00e9chantillonn\u00e9 en quelques secondes. Le r\u00e9sultat colorim\u00e9trique \u00e9tait identique \u00e0 celui du fichier X4.<\/p>\n<p>Cet exemple montre que PDF X4 n'est pas seulement un format de donn\u00e9es modifi\u00e9. Il d\u00e9place \u00e9galement la puissance de calcul et les logiciels.<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/fr\/lexikon\/ean\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"EAN = num\u00e9ro d&#039;article europ\u00e9en. L&#039;EAN a \u00e9t\u00e9 remplac\u00e9 en 2009 par le GTIN = Global Trade Identification Number.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">ean<\/a>de la personne qui cr\u00e9e les donn\u00e9es \u00e0 celle qui les traite ou \u00e0 l'imprimeur. Mais cela peut avoir des effets impr\u00e9visibles, en particulier pour les graphiques complexes. Il existe certes des solutions compatibles PDF X\/4, comme Fiery XF 5.2, mais un temps de RIP de plus de trois heures n'est \u00e9videmment pas adapt\u00e9 \u00e0 la pratique.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>R\u00e9cemment, nous avons re\u00e7u un fichier PDF d'un client suisse que nous devions v\u00e9rifier selon la norme ISOCoatedV2. Le format \u00e9tait PDFX-4, nous avons pu ouvrir le fichier, le pr\u00e9-flouter et l'afficher dans Acrobat. Cependant, lors de l'\u00e9preuve dans Fiery XF 5.2, le fichier n'a \u00e9t\u00e9 imprim\u00e9 qu'apr\u00e8s un temps de RIP de plus de 3 heures. Adobe PDF X4 Sortie d'\u00e9cran dans Acrobat Professional Nous avons enregistr\u00e9 l'\u00e9cran sur un Macbook Pro moderne avec quatre c\u0153urs de processeur et la derni\u00e8re version d'Acrobat Pro, afin de vous montrer les \u00e9normes ... <\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more-container\"><a title=\"Donn\u00e9es PDF X\/4 - qui calcule ? InDesign ou le RIP ?\" class=\"read-more button\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/fr\/pdf-x4-daten-wer-rechnet-indesign-oder-das-rip\/#more-887\" aria-label=\"En savoir plus sur PDF X\/4 donn\u00e9es - qui calcule ? 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