{"id":236,"date":"2012-08-23T02:38:19","date_gmt":"2012-08-23T00:38:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.proof.de\/?p=236"},"modified":"2020-04-20T14:16:38","modified_gmt":"2020-04-20T12:16:38","slug":"profil-nelkuel-is-lehetseges-a-bizonyitas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/hu\/ein-proof-ohne-profil-geht-das\/","title":{"rendered":"Egy profil n\u00e9lk\u00fcli bizony\u00edt\u00e9k. Lehets\u00e9ges ez?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kk-star-ratings kksr-auto kksr-align-right kksr-valign-top\" data-payload='{\"align\":\"right\",\"id\":\"236\",\"slug\":\"default\",\"valign\":\"top\",\"ignore\":\"\",\"reference\":\"auto\",\"class\":\"\",\"count\":\"0\",\"legendonly\":\"\",\"readonly\":\"\",\"score\":\"0\",\"starsonly\":\"\",\"best\":\"5\",\"gap\":\"5\",\"greet\":\"Jetzt bewerten\",\"legend\":\"0\\\/5 - (0 votes)\",\"size\":\"24\",\"title\":\"Ein Proof ohne Profil. 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A pr\u00f3banyomat az ISO-szabv\u00e1ny sz\u0171k t\u0171r\u00e9shat\u00e1rain bel\u00fcl sz\u00edn- \u00e9s jogilag k\u00f6telez\u0151 m\u00f3don szimul\u00e1lja az ofszet- vagy m\u00e9lynyom\u00f3g\u00e9pek sz\u00edness\u00e9g\u00e9t.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Bizony\u00edt\u00e9k<\/a>A szolg\u00e1ltat\u00f3knak gyakran felteszik a k\u00e9rd\u00e9st: \u201eSz\u00fcks\u00e9gem van egy igazol\u00e1sra, de nem tudom, hogy melyik profilhoz. K\u00e9sz\u00edttethetek profil n\u00e9lk\u00fcl is proofot?\u201c<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/hu\/lexikon\/proofs\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"A nyomdaiparban a pr\u00f3banyomatok (vagy pr\u00f3banyomatok) a nyomdai eredm\u00e9ny sz\u00ednhelyes \u00e9s jogilag k\u00f6telez\u0151 erej\u0171 szimul\u00e1ci\u00f3j\u00e1t jelentik ellen\u0151rz\u00e9si c\u00e9llal. A pr\u00f3banyomatok\u00e9rt felel\u0151s szabv\u00e1ny az ISO 12647-7:2016, azaz a 2016-os, aktu\u00e1lis fel\u00fclvizsg\u00e1lat.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Bizony\u00edt\u00e9kok<\/a> A bizonylatok szabv\u00e1nyos\u00edtott term\u00e9kek, amelyeket egy meghat\u00e1rozott \u00e9rt\u00e9kk\u00e9szlet szerint k\u00e9sz\u00edtenek \u00e9s ellen\u0151riznek. Pontosan ez az a pont, amely megk\u00fcl\u00f6nb\u00f6zteti \u0151ket b\u00e1rmilyen \"sz\u00ednes nyomtatv\u00e1nyt\u00f3l\".<br>\nKonkr\u00e9tan: A <strong>Bizony\u00edt\u00e9k a <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/hu\/lexikon\/bilderdruckpapier\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"A k\u00e9pnyom\u00f3pap\u00edr (vagy m\u0171v\u00e9szi pap\u00edr) egy olyan pap\u00edrt\u00edpus, amely mindk\u00e9t oldal\u00e1n bevonatos, \u00e9s nagyon elterjedt. K\u00fcl\u00f6nb\u00f6z\u0151 grammar\u00e1nyokban kaphat\u00f3, matt, f\u00e9lf\u00e9nyes vagy f\u00e9nyes bevonat\u00fa, \u00e9s minden nyomtat\u00e1si elj\u00e1r\u00e1shoz alkalmas.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">K\u00e9pnyomtat\u00f3 pap\u00edr<\/a><\/strong> az ISOCoated V2 szabv\u00e1nyos \u00e9rt\u00e9kei szerint k\u00e9sz\u00fcl (1. \u00e9s 2. t\u00edpus\u00fa pap\u00edr, f\u00e9nyes \u00e9s matt bevonat\u00fa k\u00e9pnyomtat\u00e1s), <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/hu\/lexikon\/tonwertzunahme\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"A t\u00f3nus\u00e9rt\u00e9k-n\u00f6veked\u00e9s a nyomdatechnik\u00e1ban haszn\u00e1lt kifejez\u00e9s, amely a nyomtat\u00e1si folyamat sor\u00e1n a nyomtat\u00e1si sablon t\u00f3nus\u00e9rt\u00e9keinek v\u00e1ltoz\u00e1s\u00e1t \u00edrja le. A nyomtatott k\u00e9pet alkot\u00f3 f\u00e9lt\u00f3nuspontok a nyomtat\u00e1si folyamat sor\u00e1n megnagyobbodnak, ami s\u00f6t\u00e9tebb nyomtatott k\u00e9pet eredm\u00e9nyez. A pontn\u00f6veked\u00e9s m\u00e9rt\u00e9ke k\u00fcl\u00f6nb\u00f6z\u0151 t\u00e9nyez\u0151kt\u0151l f\u00fcgg, p\u00e9ld\u00e1ul az alkalmazott nyomtat\u00e1si elj\u00e1r\u00e1st\u00f3l, a nyomtatv\u00e1ny sz\u00edn\u00e9t\u0151l,...\" class=\"encyclopedia\">T\u00f3nus\u00e9rt\u00e9k n\u00f6veked\u00e9s<\/a>A (CMY) \u00e9s B (K) g\u00f6rb\u00e9k a k\u00f6vetkez\u0151 g\u00f6rb\u00e9kt\u0151l <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/hu\/lexikon\/iso-12647\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Az ISO 12647 a nyomtat\u00e1s\u00e9rt felel\u0151s ISO-szabv\u00e1ny. Meghat\u00e1rozza a szabv\u00e1nyos\u00edtott, sz\u00ednhelyes nyomtat\u00e1s legfontosabb kulcspontjait.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">ISO 12647<\/a>-2:2004), \u00e9s egy \u00e9rt\u00e9kk\u00e9szlet szerint ellen\u0151rzik (<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/hu\/lexikon\/fogra\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Fogra Forschungsgesellschaft Druck e.V., sz\u00e9khelye M\u00fcnchen.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">FOGRA<\/a>39L). A <strong>Bizony\u00edt\u00e9k a <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/hu\/lexikon\/naturpapier\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Minden olyan pap\u00edrra vonatkozik, amely nincs bevonattal kik\u00e9sz\u00edtve. A bevonat n\u00e9lk\u00fcli pap\u00edrt bevonat n\u00e9lk\u00fcli pap\u00edrnak is nevezik.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Term\u00e9szetes pap\u00edr<\/a><\/strong> (pl. <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/hu\/lexikon\/pso\/\" target=\"_self\" title='A PSO a &quot;ProzessStandard Offsetdruck&quot; r\u00f6vid\u00edt\u00e9se, a Fogra \u00e9s a N\u00e9met Nyomdaipari \u00e9s M\u00e9diaipari Sz\u00f6vets\u00e9g \u00e1ltal k\u00f6z\u00f6sen kidolgozott szabv\u00e1ny. A ProcessStandard Offset az ofszetnyomtat\u00e1sra vonatkoz\u00f3 norm\u00e1k \u00e9s szabv\u00e1nyos\u00edt\u00e1sok gy\u0171jtem\u00e9nye.' class=\"encyclopedia\">PSO<\/a>Uncoated vagy ISOUncoated) teljesen elt\u00e9r\u0151 \u00e9rt\u00e9kek szerint k\u00e9sz\u00fcl \u00e9s ker\u00fcl ellen\u0151rz\u00e9sre. Logikus, hiszen egy bevonat n\u00e9lk\u00fcli pap\u00edrra k\u00e9sz\u00fclt nyomat a sz\u00edn- \u00e9s feh\u00e9r\u00e9rt\u00e9kek tekintet\u00e9ben \u00e9rthet\u0151en m\u00e1sk\u00e9pp n\u00e9z ki.<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/hu\/lexikon\/efi\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Az Electronics For Imaging Inc. vagy r\u00f6viden EFI egy amerikai v\u00e1llalat, a vil\u00e1g egyik vezet\u0151 proofing rendszer\u00e9nek, az EFI Colorproof XF-nek, 2013 \u00f3ta Fiery XF-nek a gy\u00e1rt\u00f3ja. Az EFI a nagym\u00e9ret\u0171 nyomtat\u00e1si rendszerek, RIP-ek \u00e9s sz\u00ednkezel\u00e9si megold\u00e1sok, p\u00e9ld\u00e1ul proofing megold\u00e1sok sz\u00e1ll\u00edt\u00f3ja.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">efi<\/a>Az eredm\u00e9ny hat\u00e1rozottan k\u00fcl\u00f6nb\u00f6zik a festm\u00e9nypap\u00edrra t\u00f6rt\u00e9n\u0151 nyomtat\u00e1st\u00f3l.<\/p>\n<p>A bizony\u00edt\u00e9kot ez\u00e9rt mindig egy szabv\u00e1ny szerint kell l\u00e9trehozni, \u00e9s egy referencia\u00e9rt\u00e9k-k\u00e9szlet alapj\u00e1n ellen\u0151rizhet\u0151nek kell lennie. <a title=\"Jelenlegi proof-profilok (2012-t\u0151l)\" href=\"https:\/\/shop.proof.de\/de\/info\/Proof-Profile.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Az aktu\u00e1lis bizonylatprofilok list\u00e1ja (2025-t\u0151l) itt tal\u00e1lhat\u00f3.<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>A probl\u00e9ma: Sz\u00e1mos nyomtat\u00e1si elj\u00e1r\u00e1s, p\u00e9ld\u00e1ul a sz\u00ednes l\u00e9zerrel t\u00f6rt\u00e9n\u0151 digit\u00e1lis nyomtat\u00e1s vagy a nagy form\u00e1tum\u00fa nyomtat\u00e1si rendszerrel (LFP) t\u00f6rt\u00e9n\u0151 nyomtat\u00e1s nem szabv\u00e1nyos\u00edtott, ez\u00e9rt nincsenek \u00e9rv\u00e9nyes profilok \u00e9s el\u0151\u00edr\u00e1sok r\u00e1juk.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mit tegy\u00fcnk? A leggyakrabban haszn\u00e1lt szabv\u00e1ny \u201ede facto alapnak\u201c bizonyult: ISOCoated V2.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ez \u00e9rthet\u0151, mivel a sz\u00ednkritikus nyomtatv\u00e1nyokat, katal\u00f3gusokat stb. t\u00falnyom\u00f3r\u00e9szt a <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/hu\/lexikon\/offsetdruck\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Az ofszetnyomtat\u00e1s egy k\u00f6zvetett nyomtat\u00e1si elj\u00e1r\u00e1s. Az indirekt azt jelenti, hogy a nyom\u00f3forma \u00e9s a hordoz\u00f3 nem \u00e9rintkezik k\u00f6zvetlen\u00fcl egym\u00e1ssal, hanem egy hordoz\u00f3t haszn\u00e1lnak k\u00f6zte, mint \u00e1tviteli eszk\u00f6zt. Ez a legelterjedtebb nyomtat\u00e1si elj\u00e1r\u00e1s. L\u00e9teznek: - \u00edves ofszetnyom\u00f3g\u00e9pek \u00e9s - rot\u00e1ci\u00f3s ofszetnyom\u00f3g\u00e9pek.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Offset nyomtat\u00e1s<\/a> m\u0171v\u00e9szi pap\u00edrra k\u00e9sz\u00fclnek, ez\u00e9rt ez a szabv\u00e1ny vonatkozik r\u00e1juk. Ez\u00e9rt \u00e1ltal\u00e1nosan felt\u00e9telezhet\u0151, hogy egy digit\u00e1lis nyomtat\u00f3nak vagy p\u00e9ld\u00e1ul egy LFP nyomtat\u00f3nak ezen a szabv\u00e1nyon kell alapulnia, \u00e9s legal\u00e1bb ezt a sz\u00edneredm\u00e9nyt kell el\u00e9rnie.<\/p>\n<p>Teh\u00e1t ha van egy <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/hu\/lexikon\/proof-erstellen\/\" target=\"_self\" title='A &quot;proof l\u00e9trehoz\u00e1sa&quot; azt jelenti, hogy digit\u00e1lis proofot k\u00e9sz\u00edt vagy k\u00e9sz\u00edttet. A kifejez\u00e9s a &quot;proof&quot; sz\u00f3 szinonim\u00e1ja.' class=\"encyclopedia\">Bizony\u00edt\u00e9k l\u00e9trehoz\u00e1sa<\/a> de nem rendelkezik a k\u00edv\u00e1nt profil pontos r\u00e9szleteivel, akkor <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/hu\/lexikon\/proofen\/\" target=\"_self\" title='A &quot;bizony\u00edt\u00e1s&quot; azt jelenti, hogy bizonylatot \u00e1ll\u00edtanak el\u0151 vagy k\u00e9sz\u00edttetnek. &quot;A bros\u00far\u00e1t m\u00e9g le kell igaz\u00edttatnom&quot; - ez a &quot;proof&quot; sz\u00f3 tipikus megfogalmaz\u00e1sa. A proofol\u00e1s teh\u00e1t azt jelenti, hogy a hat\u00e1lyos ISO 12647-7 szabv\u00e1nynak megfelel\u0151en sz\u00ednes \u00e9s jogilag k\u00f6telez\u0151 erej\u0171 proofot k\u00e9sz\u00edttet\u00fcnk.' class=\"encyclopedia\">bizony\u00edt\u00e9k<\/a> K\u00e9ts\u00e9g eset\u00e9n haszn\u00e1lja az ISOCoated V2-t. Ez a szabv\u00e1ny a leggyakrabban haszn\u00e1lt szabv\u00e1ny az ipar\u00e1gban, \u00e9s ez\u00e9rt mindig elfogadj\u00e1k alapbizonylatk\u00e9nt.<\/p>\n<p>Sajnos profil n\u00e9lk\u00fcli proofot nem lehet k\u00e9sz\u00edteni, mert az csak \u201esz\u00ednes pap\u00edr lenne egy proofing rendszerb\u0151l\u201c, de nem \u00e9rv\u00e9nyes, ISO-konform proof.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A proofing-szolg\u00e1ltat\u00f3knak gyakran felteszik a k\u00e9rd\u00e9st: \"Sz\u00fcks\u00e9gem van egy proofra, de nem tudom, hogy melyik profilra. K\u00e9sz\u00edttethetek proofot profil n\u00e9lk\u00fcl is?\" A proofok olyan szabv\u00e1nyos\u00edtott term\u00e9kek, amelyeket meghat\u00e1rozott \u00e9rt\u00e9kek alapj\u00e1n k\u00e9sz\u00edtenek \u00e9s ellen\u0151riznek. Pontosan ez k\u00fcl\u00f6nb\u00f6zteti meg \u0151ket b\u00e1rmilyen \"sz\u00ednes nyomtatv\u00e1nyt\u00f3l\". Konkr\u00e9tan: A k\u00e9pnyomtat\u00f3pap\u00edrhoz k\u00e9sz\u00fclt proof az ISOCoated V2 szabv\u00e1nyos \u00e9rt\u00e9kei szerint k\u00e9sz\u00fcl (1. \u00e9s 2. t\u00edpus\u00fa pap\u00edr, f\u00e9nyes \u00e9s matt bevonat\u00fa k\u00e9pnyomtat\u00e1s, A (CMY) \u00e9s B (K) ponter\u0151s\u00edt\u00e9si g\u00f6rb\u00e9k az ISO 12647-2:2004 szabv\u00e1nyb\u00f3l) \u00e9s ... <\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more-container\"><a title=\"Egy profil n\u00e9lk\u00fcli bizony\u00edt\u00e9k. Lehets\u00e9ges ez?\" class=\"read-more button\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/hu\/ein-proof-ohne-profil-geht-das\/#more-236\" aria-label=\"Tov\u00e1bbi inform\u00e1ci\u00f3 err\u0151l: A proof without a profile. 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