{"id":887,"date":"2014-03-10T23:02:41","date_gmt":"2014-03-10T22:02:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.proof.de\/?p=887"},"modified":"2020-05-08T12:16:19","modified_gmt":"2020-05-08T10:16:19","slug":"pdf-x4-dati-che-calcolano-il-design-o-il-rip","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/it\/pdf-x4-daten-wer-rechnet-indesign-oder-das-rip\/","title":{"rendered":"Dati PDF X\/4 - chi calcola? InDesign o il RIP?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kk-star-ratings kksr-auto kksr-align-right kksr-valign-top\" data-payload='{\"align\":\"right\",\"id\":\"887\",\"slug\":\"default\",\"valign\":\"top\",\"ignore\":\"\",\"reference\":\"auto\",\"class\":\"\",\"count\":\"0\",\"legendonly\":\"\",\"readonly\":\"\",\"score\":\"0\",\"starsonly\":\"\",\"best\":\"5\",\"gap\":\"5\",\"greet\":\"Jetzt bewerten\",\"legend\":\"0\\\/5 - (0 votes)\",\"size\":\"24\",\"title\":\"PDF X\\\/4 Daten &ndash;&nbsp;wer rechnet? 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Si riferisce al processo di stampa pi\u00f9 comune: Stampa offset su carta da stampa opaca o lucida.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">ISOCoatedV2<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/it\/lexikon\/proofen\/\" target=\"_self\" title='&quot;Proofing&quot; significa realizzare una prova o far realizzare una prova. &quot;Devo ancora far realizzare la bozza della brochure&quot; \u00e8 la formulazione tipica della parola &quot;proofing&quot;. Quindi, per proofing si intende la realizzazione di una prova a colori e legalmente vincolante, secondo lo standard ISO 12647-7 attuale.' class=\"encyclopedia\">proofen<\/a> dovrebbe. Il formato era PDFX-4, potevamo aprire il file, preflightarlo e anche convertirlo in Acr.<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/it\/lexikon\/oba\/\" target=\"_self\" title='OBA \u00e8 l&#039;abbreviazione di &quot;Optical Brightning Agents&quot; o &quot;Optical Brightners&quot;.' class=\"encyclopedia\">oba<\/a>t pu\u00f2 essere visualizzato. A <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/it\/lexikon\/proof\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Una prova di stampa (correttamente: prova contrattuale) \u00e8 un dispositivo di prova certificato ISO 12647-7 per l&#039;industria delle arti grafiche. Una prova di stampa simula la colorazione della stampa offset o della stampa rotocalco in modo vincolante dal punto di vista cromatico e legale, entro le strette tolleranze dello standard ISO.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Prova<\/a> in <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/it\/lexikon\/fiery\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Fiery \u00e8 una linea di prodotti dell&#039;azienda EFI - Electronics for Imaging. Mentre in passato il nome Fiery era conosciuto solo dai controller per le stampanti, oggi anche i sistemi di prova e di produzione sono venduti con il nome Fiery.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Fuoco<\/a> XF 5.2, tuttavia, il file \u00e8 stato creato solo dopo una <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/it\/lexikon\/rip\/\" target=\"_self\" title='Un RIP \u00e8 un elaboratore di immagini raster. Elabora i dati PDF o Postscript e li invia agli stampatori di immagini o alle stampanti di prova collegate.' class=\"encyclopedia\">RIP<\/a>-tempo di oltre 3 ore.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blog1.proofen.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/Screen-Recorded2014-03-01-23_44_59.mov\">Uscita schermo di Adobe PDF X4 in Acrobat Professional<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Abbiamo registrato il layout dello schermo su un moderno Macbook Pro con quattro core di processore e l'ultima versione di Acrobat Pro, per mostrarle gli enormi requisiti dell'hardware e quindi della potenza di calcolo.<\/p>\n<p>Era chiaro che il tempo di RIP sarebbe stato piuttosto lungo, data l'impostazione dello schermo, ma tre ore con un solo <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/it\/lexikon\/nutzen\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Il numero di pannelli indica quante pagine possono essere collocate (e quindi stampate) su un foglio stampato.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Benefici<\/a> \u00e8 stato relativamente insolito, soprattutto perch\u00e9 nel nostro RIP ci sono stati due casi di <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/it\/lexikon\/adobe-pdf-print-engine\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Adobe PDF Print Engine - APPE - \u00e8 una piattaforma di stampa e rendering di Adobe specializzata nell&#039;elaborazione di file PDF e sostituisce il linguaggio di stampa Postscript Livello III, ampiamente utilizzato, e il CPSI (Configurable PostScript Interpreter). Adobe PDF Print Engine produce i dati di stampa finali per i platesetter o i sistemi di proofing dai file PDF.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Motore di stampa Adobe PDF<\/a> lavorano simultaneamente. Non si capisce ancora dove sia l'errore nel tempo di RIP estremamente elevato. Entrambi <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/it\/lexikon\/efi\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Electronics For Imaging Inc., in breve EFI, \u00e8 un&#039;azienda americana e produttrice di uno dei sistemi di proofing leader nel mondo: EFI Colorproof XF, dal 2013: Fiery XF. EFI \u00e8 un fornitore di soluzioni per sistemi di stampa di grandi dimensioni, RIP e soluzioni di gestione del colore come il proofing.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">EFI<\/a> come produttore del RIP Fiery e Adobe come produttore del PDF Print Engine (APPE) hanno ricevuto i dati, il file \u00e8 stato probabilmente rippato in pochi minuti su un RIP Harlequin. Un errore nel PDF Print Engine di Adobe potrebbe quindi essere la causa del lungo tempo di elaborazione.<\/p>\n<p>Il problema \u00e8 tipico. Dai programmi di creazione come InDesign e Illustrator, l'appiattimento degli elementi del file con X\/4 viene trasmesso al RIP in tipografia o al produttore di prove di stampa.<\/p>\n<p>Il presente caso \u00e8 stato calcolato su un sistema quad-core con SSD con due istanze di Adobe PDF Print Engine e ha prodotto correttamente per tre ore e 47 minuti. Tuttavia, poich\u00e9 la copertina del prodotto finale probabilmente non sar\u00e0 prodotta in Europa, ma in Asia, si \u00e8 deciso, per tenere conto delle tecnologie di stampa locali, di calcolare la grafica complessa con trasparenze, ombreggiature, ecc. in Photoshop e poi stamparla come PDF trasparente. <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/it\/lexikon\/psd\/\" target=\"_self\" title='PSD sta per il Fogra &quot;ProcessStandard Digital&quot;, cos\u00ec come PSO sta per &quot;ProcessStandard Offset&quot;.' class=\"encyclopedia\">PSD<\/a> di nuovo il file. Il file PDF X\/3 risultante \u00e8 stato strappato e sottoposto a prova in pochi secondi. Il risultato cromatico era identico al file X4.<\/p>\n<p>L'esempio mostra: PDF X4 non \u00e8 solo un formato di dati modificato. Sposta anche la potenza di calcolo e il software verso l'azienda.<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/it\/lexikon\/ean\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"EAN = Numero di articolo europeo. L&#039;EAN \u00e8 stato sostituito dal GTIN = Global Trade Identification Number nel 2009.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">ean<\/a>dal creatore dei dati all'elaboratore dei dati o alla stampante. Soprattutto con la grafica complessa, tuttavia, questo pu\u00f2 portare a effetti imprevedibili. Anche se nel frattempo esistono soluzioni compatibili con PDF X\/4, come Fiery XF 5.2, un tempo di RIP di oltre tre ore non \u00e8 ovviamente pratico.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Di recente abbiamo ricevuto da un cliente svizzero un file PDF che ci \u00e8 stato chiesto di correggere secondo la norma ISOCoatedV2. Il formato \u00e8 stato creato come PDFX-4, siamo stati in grado di aprire il file, preflightarlo e anche visualizzarlo in Acrobat. Tuttavia, durante il proofing in Fiery XF 5.2, il file \u00e8 stato prodotto solo dopo un tempo di RIP di oltre 3 ore. Output dello schermo di Adobe PDF X4 in Acrobat Professional Abbiamo registrato il layout dello schermo su un moderno Macbook Pro con quattro core di processore e l'ultima versione di Acrobat Pro, per mostrarle gli enormi requisiti dell'hardware e quindi ... <\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more-container\"><a title=\"Dati PDF X\/4 - chi calcola? InDesign o il RIP?\" class=\"read-more button\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/it\/pdf-x4-daten-wer-rechnet-indesign-oder-das-rip\/#more-887\" aria-label=\"Per saperne di pi\u00f9 su PDF X\/4 data - chi fa i conti? 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