{"id":887,"date":"2014-03-10T23:02:41","date_gmt":"2014-03-10T22:02:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.proof.de\/?p=887"},"modified":"2020-05-08T12:16:19","modified_gmt":"2020-05-08T10:16:19","slug":"pdf-x4-dane-kto-oblicza-indesign-czy-rip","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/pl\/pdf-x4-daten-wer-rechnet-indesign-oder-das-rip\/","title":{"rendered":"Dane PDF X\/4 - kto wykonuje obliczenia? InDesign czy RIP?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kk-star-ratings kksr-auto kksr-align-right kksr-valign-top\" data-payload='{\"align\":\"right\",\"id\":\"887\",\"slug\":\"default\",\"valign\":\"top\",\"ignore\":\"\",\"reference\":\"auto\",\"class\":\"\",\"count\":\"0\",\"legendonly\":\"\",\"readonly\":\"\",\"score\":\"0\",\"starsonly\":\"\",\"best\":\"5\",\"gap\":\"5\",\"greet\":\"Jetzt bewerten\",\"legend\":\"0\\\/5 - (0 votes)\",\"size\":\"24\",\"title\":\"PDF X\\\/4 Daten &ndash;&nbsp;wer rechnet? 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Odpowiada on najbardziej powszechnemu procesowi drukowania: Druk offsetowy na matowym lub b\u0142yszcz\u0105cym papierze do druku obraz\u00f3w.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">ISOCoatedV2<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/pl\/lexikon\/proofen\/\" target=\"_self\" title='&quot;Proofing&quot; oznacza wykonanie proofa lub zlecenie jego wykonania. &quot;Nadal musz\u0119 mie\u0107 proof broszury&quot; to typowe sformu\u0142owanie dla s\u0142owa &quot;proof&quot;. Proofing oznacza zatem wykonanie kolorowego i prawnie wi\u0105\u017c\u0105cego proofa zgodnie z aktualn\u0105 norm\u0105 ISO 12647-7.' class=\"encyclopedia\">dow\u00f3d<\/a> powinien. Format zosta\u0142 utworzony jako PDFX-4, byli\u015bmy w stanie otworzy\u0107 plik, wst\u0119pnie go prze\u015bwietli\u0107, a tak\u017ce przekonwertowa\u0107 na Acr<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/pl\/lexikon\/oba\/\" target=\"_self\" title='OBA to skr\u00f3t od &quot;Optical Brightning Agents&quot; lub &quot;Optical Brightners&quot;.' class=\"encyclopedia\">oba<\/a>t mo\u017cna wy\u015bwietli\u0107. Z <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/pl\/lexikon\/proof\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Odbitka pr\u00f3bna to certyfikowane zgodnie z norm\u0105 ISO 12647-7 urz\u0105dzenie testuj\u0105ce dla bran\u017cy poligraficznej. Odbitka pr\u00f3bna symuluje kolorystyk\u0119 druku offsetowego lub wkl\u0119s\u0142ego w spos\u00f3b kolorystyczny i prawnie wi\u0105\u017c\u0105cy w ramach w\u0105skich tolerancji normy ISO.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Dow\u00f3d<\/a> w <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/pl\/lexikon\/fiery\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Fiery to gama produkt\u00f3w firmy EFI - Electronics for Imaging. Podczas gdy nazwa Fiery by\u0142a wcze\u015bniej znana tylko z kontroler\u00f3w do drukarek, systemy proofingu i produkcji s\u0105 obecnie sprzedawane r\u00f3wnie\u017c pod nazw\u0105 Fiery.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Ognisty<\/a> XF 5.2, jednak plik zosta\u0142 otwarty dopiero po uruchomieniu <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/pl\/lexikon\/rip\/\" target=\"_self\" title='RIP to procesor obrazu rastrowego, czyli &quot;procesor obrazu rastrowego&quot;. Przetwarza on dane PDF lub Postscript i wysy\u0142a je do pod\u0142\u0105czonych drukarek do obraz\u00f3w lub drukarek pr\u00f3bnych.' class=\"encyclopedia\">RIP<\/a>-ponad 3 godziny.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blog1.proofen.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/Screen-Recorded2014-03-01-23_44_59.mov\">Ekran wyj\u015bciowy Adobe PDF X4 w programie Acrobat Professional<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Nagrali\u015bmy uk\u0142ad ekranu na nowoczesnym Macbooku Pro z czterema rdzeniami procesora i najnowsz\u0105 wersj\u0105 Acrobat Pro, aby zilustrowa\u0107 ogromne wymagania sprz\u0119towe, a tym samym moc obliczeniow\u0105.<\/p>\n<p>By\u0142o jasne, \u017ce czas RIP b\u0119dzie do\u015b\u0107 d\u0142ugi przy ustawieniu ekranu, ale trzy godziny z tylko jednym <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/pl\/lexikon\/nutzen\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Liczba paneli wskazuje, ile stron mo\u017cna umie\u015bci\u0107 (a tym samym wydrukowa\u0107) na arkuszu wydruku.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Korzy\u015bci<\/a> by\u0142o stosunkowo nietypowe, zw\u0142aszcza \u017ce w naszym RIP wyst\u0105pi\u0142y dwa przypadki <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/pl\/lexikon\/adobe-pdf-print-engine\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Adobe PDF Print Engine - APPE - to platforma drukowania i renderowania firmy Adobe, kt\u00f3ra specjalizuje si\u0119 w przetwarzaniu plik\u00f3w PDF i zast\u0119puje powszechnie u\u017cywany j\u0119zyk drukowania Postscript Level III oraz CPSI (Configurable PostScript Interpreter). Adobe PDF Print Engine tworzy z plik\u00f3w PDF ostateczne dane drukowania dla na\u015bwietlarek lub system\u00f3w proofingu.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Mechanizm drukowania Adobe PDF<\/a> dzia\u0142aj\u0105 jednocze\u015bnie. Nie jest jeszcze jasne, gdzie dok\u0142adnie le\u017cy b\u0142\u0105d w ekstremalnie wysokim czasie RIP. Oba <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/pl\/lexikon\/efi\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Electronics For Imaging Inc, w skr\u00f3cie EFI, to ameryka\u0144ska firma i producent jednego z wiod\u0105cych na \u015bwiecie system\u00f3w proofingowych: EFI Colorproof XF, od 2013 roku: Fiery XF. EFI jest dostawc\u0105 rozwi\u0105za\u0144 dla du\u017cych system\u00f3w druku, RIP-\u00f3w i rozwi\u0105za\u0144 do zarz\u0105dzania kolorem, takich jak proofing.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">EFI<\/a> Po otrzymaniu danych przez Fiery RIPS i Adobe jako producenta mechanizmu PDF Print Engine (APPE), plik zosta\u0142 prawdopodobnie zgrany w ci\u0105gu kilku minut na Harlequin RIP. B\u0142\u0105d w silniku Adobe PDF Print Engine by\u0142by zatem r\u00f3wnie\u017c przyczyn\u0105 d\u0142ugiego czasu przetwarzania.<\/p>\n<p>Problem jest typowy. Z program\u00f3w do tworzenia, takich jak InDesign i Illustrator, p\u0142askie obliczenia element\u00f3w pliku z X\/4 s\u0105 przekazywane do RIP w drukarni lub w drukarni pr\u00f3bnej.<\/p>\n<p>Ten przypadek zosta\u0142 obliczony na czterordzeniowym systemie z dyskami SSD przy u\u017cyciu dw\u00f3ch instancji Adobe PDF Print Engine i poprawnie wydrukowany w ci\u0105gu trzech godzin i 47 minut. Poniewa\u017c jednak nie oczekuje si\u0119, \u017ce ok\u0142adka produktu ko\u0144cowego zostanie wyprodukowana w Europie, ale w Azji, zdecydowano si\u0119 zmniejszy\u0107 rozmiar z\u0142o\u017conej grafiki za pomoc\u0105 przezroczysto\u015bci, cieni itp. w programie Photoshop, a nast\u0119pnie wydrukowa\u0107 j\u0105 jako przezroczysty plik PDF, bior\u0105c pod uwag\u0119 lokalne technologie drukowania. <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/pl\/lexikon\/psd\/\" target=\"_self\" title='PSD oznacza Fogra &quot;ProcessStandard Digital&quot;, podobnie jak PSO oznacza &quot;ProcessStandard Offset&quot;.' class=\"encyclopedia\">PSD<\/a> Prosz\u0119 powt\u00f3rzy\u0107 dat\u0119. Wynikowy plik PDF X\/3 zosta\u0142 zgrany i sprawdzony w ci\u0105gu kilku sekund. Rezultat kolorystyczny by\u0142 identyczny z plikiem X4.<\/p>\n<p>Przyk\u0142ad ten pokazuje, \u017ce PDF X4 to nie tylko zmodyfikowany format danych. To tak\u017ce zmiana mocy obliczeniowej i oprogramowania<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/pl\/lexikon\/ean\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"EAN = Europejski Numer Artyku\u0142u. EAN zosta\u0142 zast\u0105piony przez GTIN = Globalny Numer Identyfikacji Handlowej w 2009 roku.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">ean<\/a>od tw\u00f3rcy danych do procesora danych lub drukarki. Mo\u017ce to jednak prowadzi\u0107 do nieprzewidywalnych efekt\u00f3w, zw\u0142aszcza w przypadku z\u0142o\u017conych grafik. Chocia\u017c istniej\u0105 obecnie rozwi\u0105zania obs\u0142uguj\u0105ce PDF X\/4, takie jak Fiery XF 5.2, czas RIP wynosz\u0105cy ponad trzy godziny jest oczywi\u015bcie niepraktyczny.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Niedawno otrzymali\u015bmy od szwajcarskiego klienta plik PDF, kt\u00f3ry mieli\u015bmy sprawdzi\u0107 zgodnie z norm\u0105 ISOCoatedV2. Format zosta\u0142 utworzony jako PDFX-4, byli\u015bmy w stanie otworzy\u0107 plik, przeprowadzi\u0107 jego wst\u0119pn\u0105 kontrol\u0119, a tak\u017ce wy\u015bwietli\u0107 go w programie Acrobat. Jednak podczas proofingu w Fiery XF 5.2 plik zosta\u0142 wydrukowany dopiero po czasie RIP wynosz\u0105cym ponad 3 godziny. Uk\u0142ad ekranu Adobe PDF X4 w programie Acrobat Professional Nagrali\u015bmy uk\u0142ad ekranu na nowoczesnym komputerze Macbook Pro z czterema rdzeniami procesora i najnowsz\u0105 wersj\u0105 programu Acrobat Pro, aby pokaza\u0107 Pa\u0144stwu ogromne wymagania sprz\u0119towe, a tym samym ... <\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more-container\"><a title=\"Dane PDF X\/4 - kto wykonuje obliczenia? InDesign czy RIP?\" class=\"read-more button\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/pl\/pdf-x4-daten-wer-rechnet-indesign-oder-das-rip\/#more-887\" aria-label=\"Dowiedz si\u0119 wi\u0119cej o danych PDF X\/4 - kto zajmuje si\u0119 matematyk\u0105? 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