{"id":539,"date":"2013-08-27T16:15:39","date_gmt":"2013-08-27T14:15:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.proof.de\/?p=539"},"modified":"2020-05-08T13:30:24","modified_gmt":"2020-05-08T11:30:24","slug":"color-correction-flyer-alarm-vs-flyerwire","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/cs\/farbverbindlichkeit-flyeralarm-vs-flyerwire\/","title":{"rendered":"St\u00ed\u017enost kv\u016fli \u0161patn\u00e9 barv\u011b: n\u00e1hodn\u00e9 srovn\u00e1n\u00ed Flyeralarmu a Flyerwire z hlediska p\u0159esnosti barev"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kk-star-ratings kksr-auto kksr-align-right kksr-valign-top\" data-payload='{\"align\":\"right\",\"id\":\"539\",\"slug\":\"default\",\"valign\":\"top\",\"ignore\":\"\",\"reference\":\"auto\",\"class\":\"\",\"count\":\"0\",\"legendonly\":\"\",\"readonly\":\"\",\"score\":\"0\",\"starsonly\":\"\",\"best\":\"5\",\"gap\":\"5\",\"greet\":\"Jetzt bewerten\",\"legend\":\"0\\\/5 - (0 votes)\",\"size\":\"24\",\"title\":\"Reklamation wegen falscher Farbe: Ein zuf&auml;lliger Vergleich von Flyeralarm und Flyerwire in Sachen Farbverbindlichkeit\",\"width\":\"0\",\"_legend\":\"{score}\\\/{best} - ({count} {votes})\",\"font_factor\":\"1.25\"}'>\n            \n<div class=\"kksr-stars\">\n    \n<div class=\"kksr-stars-inactive\">\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" data-star=\"1\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" data-star=\"2\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" data-star=\"3\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" data-star=\"4\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" data-star=\"5\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n<div class=\"kksr-stars-active\" style=\"width: 0px;\">\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n<\/div>\n                \n\n<div class=\"kksr-legend\" style=\"font-size: 19.2px;\">\n            <span class=\"kksr-muted\">Hodnotit nyn\u00ed<\/span>\n    <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n<p>V posledn\u00ed dob\u011b m\u00e1me vizitku na <a title=\"Flyerwire\" href=\"https:\/\/www.flyerwire.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Flyerwire<\/a> tisknout, proto\u017ee zde, i kdy\u017e za trochu v\u00edce pen\u011bz ne\u017e nap\u0159. u <a title=\"Flyeralarm\" href=\"https:\/\/www.flyeralarm.com\/de\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Flyeralarm<\/a> by se tak\u00e9 - podle na\u0161eho n\u00e1zoru - dod\u00e1valy kvalitn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed vizitky. V\u00fdsledek byl poprv\u00e9 po mnoha letech zklam\u00e1n\u00edm: Barvy byly hor\u0161\u00ed ve srovn\u00e1n\u00ed s <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/cs\/lexikon\/proof\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Kontroln\u00ed n\u00e1tisk (spr\u00e1vn\u011b: smluvn\u00ed n\u00e1tisk) je certifikovan\u00e9 kontroln\u00ed za\u0159\u00edzen\u00ed podle normy ISO 12647-7 pro grafick\u00fd pr\u016fmysl. Kontroln\u00ed n\u00e1tisk simuluje barevnost ofsetov\u00e9ho nebo hlubotiskov\u00e9ho tisku barevn\u011b a pr\u00e1vn\u011b z\u00e1vazn\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem v r\u00e1mci \u00fazk\u00fdch toleranc\u00ed normy ISO.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">D\u016fkaz<\/a> z\u0159eteln\u011b p\u0159esycen\u00e9, p\u0159edn\u00ed a zadn\u00ed strana nejsou toto\u017en\u00e9, ale velmi odli\u0161n\u00e9. Na z\u00e1klad\u011b <a title=\"Kniha DCS\" href=\"https:\/\/grafipress.de\/products\/dcs-book-cmyk-professional-edition?_pos=3&amp;_sid=5256666cb&amp;_ss=r\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Knihy DCS<\/a> jsme p\u0159i prvn\u00edm porovn\u00e1n\u00ed zjistili, \u017ee zejm\u00e9na v rozsahu magenty mezi 90% a 100% byla vyti\u0161t\u011bna magenta m\u00edsto uveden\u00e9 70%. Tak\u00e9 \u017elut\u00e1 barva se zd\u00e1la b\u00fdt z\u0159eteln\u011b p\u0159esycen\u00e1.<\/p>\n<p>Po reklamaci byla karta doru\u010dena spole\u010dnost\u00ed Flyerwire podruh\u00e9 o 10 dn\u00ed pozd\u011bji. Nyn\u00ed je to mnohem lep\u0161\u00ed, ale do certifikovan\u00e9ho dokladu m\u00e1 st\u00e1le daleko. Zejm\u00e9na sv\u011btle kr\u00e9mov\u00e1 oblast byla z\u0159eteln\u011b nebarevn\u00e1. Reklamovali jsme podruh\u00e9 a - \u010dist\u011b ze z\u00e1jmu - jsme si objednali vizitku od spole\u010dnosti Flyeralarm s toto\u017en\u00fdmi tiskov\u00fdmi \u00fadaji.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Zat\u00edmco karta byla je\u0161t\u011b v reklamaci u spole\u010dnosti Flyerwire a \u010dekali jsme na zp\u011btnou vazbu, vyti\u0161t\u011bn\u00e1 karta byla doru\u010dena spole\u010dnost\u00ed Flyeralarm: Z hlediska barevnosti dokonale odpov\u00eddala na\u0161emu n\u00e1tisku, ale bohu\u017eel nebyla tak dobr\u00e1 jako kopie od Flyerwire, co se t\u00fd\u010de vzhledu a dojmu. Nyn\u00ed se spole\u010dnost Flyerwire ozvala i telefonicky: velmi je pot\u011b\u0161ila na\u0161e reklamace (\"jen tak m\u016f\u017eeme pochopit a napravit probl\u00e9my\") a my jsme spole\u010dnosti Flyerwire poslali \u010dty\u0159i vizitky: Jejich prvn\u00ed v\u00e1rku, jejich druhou v\u00e1rku, n\u00e1\u0161 n\u00e1hled a vyti\u0161t\u011bnou vizitku od Flyeralarm.<\/p>\n<p>O t\u00fdden pozd\u011bji dorazil dotisk z Flyerwire: Velmi dobr\u00e1 barevnost a naprost\u00e1 shoda s p\u0159edlohou a kartou z Flyerwire - a: hapticky prost\u011b v obvykl\u00e9 kvalit\u011b na\u0161ich karet Flyerwire. Z\u00e1kazn\u00edk byl spokojen.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Z\u00e1v\u011br<\/strong>Online tisk\u00e1rny maj\u00ed vynikaj\u00edc\u00ed pozici pro v\u00fdrobu v\u00fdtisk\u016f ve spr\u00e1vn\u00fdch barv\u00e1ch podle procesn\u00edch norem, a to i v mal\u00fdch form\u00e1tech a n\u00e1kladech. <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/cs\/lexikon\/offsetdruck\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Ofsetov\u00fd tisk je nep\u0159\u00edm\u00fd tiskov\u00fd proces. Nep\u0159\u00edm\u00fd znamen\u00e1, \u017ee tiskov\u00e1 forma a podklad nep\u0159ich\u00e1zej\u00ed do p\u0159\u00edm\u00e9ho kontaktu, ale jako prost\u0159edek p\u0159enosu se pou\u017e\u00edv\u00e1 m\u00e9dium mezi nimi. Jedn\u00e1 se o nejroz\u0161\u00ed\u0159en\u011bj\u0161\u00ed tiskov\u00fd proces. Existuj\u00ed: - archov\u00e9 ofsetov\u00e9 tiskov\u00e9 stroje a - kotou\u010dov\u00e9 ofsetov\u00e9 tiskov\u00e9 stroje.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Ofsetov\u00fd tisk<\/a>DIN 12647-2. V na\u0161em konkr\u00e9tn\u00edm p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b je p\u0159\u00edtomnost <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/cs\/lexikon\/proofs\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"V polygrafick\u00e9m odv\u011btv\u00ed se zku\u0161ebn\u00edmi v\u00fdtisky (nebo zku\u0161ebn\u00edmi v\u00fdtisky) rozum\u00ed barevn\u011b v\u00e1zan\u00e1 a pr\u00e1vn\u011b z\u00e1vazn\u00e1 simulace v\u00fdsledku tisku pro kontroln\u00ed \u00fa\u010dely. Norma odpov\u011bdn\u00e1 za n\u00e1tisky je ISO 12647-7:2016, tj. aktu\u00e1ln\u00ed revize z roku 2016.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">D\u016fkazy<\/a> n\u00e1m velmi pomohl v procesu pod\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed st\u00ed\u017enost\u00ed. A asi po 20 dnech a dvou reklamac\u00edch jsme m\u011bli objednan\u00fd produkt v objednan\u00fdch barv\u00e1ch tak\u00e9 v na\u0161\u00ed po\u017eadovan\u00e9 tisk\u00e1rn\u011b.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_544\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-544\" style=\"width: 574px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog1.proofen.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMG_9808_v2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-544\" src=\"https:\/\/blog1.proofen.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMG_9808_v2-739x1024.jpg\" alt=\"Obr\u00e1zek zobrazuje p\u011bt pohled\u016f na vizitku: Flyerwire 1. tisk, Flyerwire 2. tisk, Flyerwire 3. tisk, Flyeralarm tisk, Proof of shop.proof.de.\" width=\"584\" height=\"809\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMG_9808_v2-739x1024.jpg 739w, https:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMG_9808_v2-216x300.jpg 216w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 584px) 100vw, 584px\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-544\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Fotografie vizitek Flyerwire a Flyeralarm samoz\u0159ejm\u011b nen\u00ed barevn\u011b z\u00e1vazn\u00e1, ale slou\u017e\u00ed jako referen\u010dn\u00ed. <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/cs\/lexikon\/led\/\" target=\"_self\" title='LED je &quot;dioda vyza\u0159uj\u00edc\u00ed sv\u011btlo&quot; a v grafick\u00e9m pr\u016fmyslu ozna\u010duje nov\u00e9 sv\u011btlo &quot;LED&quot;, kter\u00e9 nahradilo star\u0161\u00ed sv\u011bteln\u00e9 zdroje, jako jsou neonov\u00e9 trubice a wolframov\u00e9 lampy. Neonov\u00e9 trubice jsou zn\u00e1m\u00e9 p\u0159edev\u0161\u00edm z \u0159ady standardn\u00edch sv\u011bteln\u00fdch zdroj\u016f D50 nebo D65, zat\u00edmco wolframov\u00e9 sv\u011bteln\u00e9 zdroje se pou\u017e\u00edvaly p\u0159edev\u0161\u00edm v za\u0159\u00edzen\u00edch pro m\u011b\u0159en\u00ed barev, jako jsou spektrofotometry a kolorimetry.....' class=\"encyclopedia\">vedl<\/a>pouze pro vizualizaci.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Z na\u0161ich zku\u0161enost\u00ed s reklamacemi od jin\u00fdch online tisk\u00e1ren m\u00e1me stejn\u00fd obr\u00e1zek: v\u0161echny reklamace byly v\u017edy vy\u0159\u00edzeny pom\u011brn\u011b rychle, vst\u0159\u00edcn\u011b a kladn\u011b. Pouze jednou s <a title=\"Tisk24\" href=\"http:\/\/www.print24.de\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Tisk24<\/a> na\u0161e \u017e\u00e1dost byla zam\u00edtnuta, a\u010dkoli tisk by jist\u011b v\u016fbec nevyhov\u011bl odchylk\u00e1m ISO, ale d<a href=\"https:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/cs\/lexikon\/efi\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Electronics For Imaging Inc., zkr\u00e1cen\u011b EFI, je americk\u00e1 spole\u010dnost a v\u00fdrobce jednoho z p\u0159edn\u00edch sv\u011btov\u00fdch n\u00e1tiskov\u00fdch syst\u00e9m\u016f: EFI Colorproof XF, od roku 2013: Fiery XF. EFI je dodavatelem \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed pro velk\u00e9 tiskov\u00e9 syst\u00e9my, RIPy a \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed pro spr\u00e1vu barev, jako je nap\u0159\u00edklad proofing.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">efi<\/a>nitiv byl mimo jakoukoli toleranci. P\u0159i objedn\u00e1vce v hodnot\u011b p\u0159es 500 eur to bylo nep\u0159\u00edjemn\u00e9, ale z\u00e1kazn\u00edk p\u0159ijal z na\u0161\u00ed strany slevu. Ve v\u0161ech ostatn\u00edch p\u0159\u00edpadech byly reklamace v\u017edy \u00fasp\u011b\u0161n\u00e9. A p\u0159i v\u00edce ne\u017e 1000 tiskov\u00fdch zak\u00e1zk\u00e1ch jen ve Flyeralarmu je n\u00e1\u0161 po\u010det reklamac\u00ed velmi omezen\u00fd, rozhodn\u011b ne v\u00edce ne\u017e n\u011bkolik procent z celkov\u00e9ho objemu.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ned\u00e1vno jsme si nechali vytisknout vizitky u spole\u010dnosti Flyerwire, proto\u017ee a\u010dkoli by n\u00e1m dodala - podle na\u0161eho n\u00e1zoru - kvalitn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed vizitky za o n\u011bco v\u00edce pen\u011bz ne\u017e nap\u0159\u00edklad Flyeralarm. V\u00fdsledek n\u00e1s poprv\u00e9 po mnoha letech zklamal: V porovn\u00e1n\u00ed s p\u0159edlohou byly barvy z\u0159eteln\u011b p\u0159esaturovan\u00e9, p\u0159edn\u00ed a zadn\u00ed strana nebyly toto\u017en\u00e9, ale velmi odli\u0161n\u00e9. Pomoc\u00ed knihy DCS jsme provedli prvotn\u00ed srovn\u00e1n\u00ed a zjistili jsme, \u017ee zejm\u00e9na purpurov\u00e9 barvy byly vyti\u0161t\u011bny mezi 90% a 100% magenta nam\u00edsto uveden\u00e9 70%. Tak\u00e9 \u017elut\u00e1 barva se zd\u00e1la b\u00fdt z\u0159eteln\u011b p\u0159esycen\u00e1. ... <\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more-container\"><a title=\"St\u00ed\u017enost kv\u016fli \u0161patn\u00e9 barv\u011b: n\u00e1hodn\u00e9 srovn\u00e1n\u00ed Flyeralarmu a Flyerwire z hlediska p\u0159esnosti barev\" class=\"read-more button\" href=\"https:\/\/blog.proofs.de\/cs\/farbverbindlichkeit-flyeralarm-vs-flyerwire\/#more-539\" aria-label=\"\u010c\u00edst v\u00edce o St\u00ed\u017enost kv\u016fli nespr\u00e1vn\u00e9 barv\u011b: nam\u00e1tkov\u00e9 srovn\u00e1n\u00ed Flyeralarmu a Flyerwire z hlediska p\u0159esnosti barvy\">P\u0159e\u010dt\u011bte si v\u00edce<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":544,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"inline_featured_image":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,18,443,441,7],"tags":[21,114,113,116,519,115,117],"class_list":["post-539","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-allgemein","category-haufige-fragen","category-haeufige-fragen-zu-proofs","category-layout-tipps-und-tricks","category-proof-wissen","tag-farbverbindlich","tag-flyeralarm","tag-flyerwire","tag-print24","tag-proof","tag-reklamation","tag-visitenkarte","generate-columns","tablet-grid-50","mobile-grid-100","grid-parent","grid-50","no-featured-image-padding","resize-featured-image"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 5.0.1.1 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Wegen falscher Farben haben wir bei Flyerwire reklamiert, und aus Interesse parallel bei Flyeralarm drucken lassen. 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